But even MacCallum appeared confused by the DHS spokesperson’s claim that there was no change in posture. Last week, as protests against immigration raids spread across the country, President Donald Trump conceded in a Truth Social post that his sweeping deportation agenda was hurting businesses in the agriculture, hotel, and leisure industries.

A new NBC News poll shows President Trump’s approval numbers are sinking, even with portions of his base and on issues that brought him to the Oval Office. Republican strategist Susan Del Percio, Democratic strategist Cornell Belcher and former HUD Secretary Julián Castro join Alex Witt to discuss the latest findings.